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An extensive series on internet privacy from the "Wall Street Journal"

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Post by waterdragon7 Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:34 pm

This series can be found here:

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This is a very, very long series, and I still have much more to read myself. However, this is one of those rare times when I think this information should be required as part of your high-school graduation requirements! Or, for us older folks, to be provided by the federal government when you get your annual Social Security information in the mail.

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Post by Justin Passing Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:44 am

Sounds like it's a good idea to use a cell phone that's ONLY a cell phone. No E-Mail, no Internet, no Camera, just phone. Combining all those other features allows people to exploit your personal data and lifestyle way too easily. It's kind of sad you can't get away from the built in GPS, but I suppose there are good reasons (and bad ones) for that to be included.
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Post by waterdragon7 Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:22 pm

Justin Passing wrote:Sounds like it's a good idea to use a cell phone that's ONLY a cell phone. No E-Mail, no Internet, no Camera, just phone. Combining all those other features allows people to exploit your personal data and lifestyle way too easily. It's kind of sad you can't get away from the built in GPS, but I suppose there are good reasons (and bad ones) for that to be included.
I use a pre-paid cell phone which cost $10, and requires you to purchase $20/quarter of minutes to keep it active. Although it claims to have GPS, it's more likely tower triangulation. Even that is bad enough. But, other than remaining active for 911 calls, you can ostensibly shut this off from the "settings" menu of the phone.
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Post by Justin Passing Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:41 pm

Tower triangulation is largely unavoidable. The phone does have to find cell towers to function. But I really wonder about the GPS satellites. Lacking the ability to truly control what a phone does (which would be ideal), I'd be tempted to cobble something together to jam those signals. Should be relatively easy to do. Easier than building your own phone. Perhaps the open software community has come up with something - like a cell phone you can fully configure and control. Then again, something like that could very easily be used for illegal purposes, so such things may be a bit hidden.
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Post by Denmarkguy Wed Jul 27, 2011 12:55 pm

I don't remember where I read it, but I came across an article about "10 things that will disappear in the next 50 years."

Along with obvious things like "land line telephones," were less obvious things like "written checks," and dubious things like "printed books." The one that struck me most... and seems VERY real to me... was "your privacy." Even if you're a complete Luddite, I increasingly feel that efforts we make to "protect" our privacy is like trying to swim upstream in a swollen and growing river.

I've reached a point where I am no longer fighting it, trying instead to find ways to make the system serve me, on my terms. I haven't fully decided where that is going to take me, yet... and it's probably a very fluid and ongoing "target."

Sorry if this is slightly O/T, but it feels related, at least.

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Post by melodiccolor Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:22 pm

It is and we have another thread on that very article somewhere...

I like your solution and it merrits a thread of its own. How do we make that system work in our favor?
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Post by Justin Passing Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:15 pm

I don't want to obsess or go nuts about privacy, but I don't like being watched or tracked. In some cases, circumventing the ways we get spied on may attract more attention then letting them, in which case I think it's wiser simply to "go along". Mainly, I don't want to be hassled, that's all.

As for getting the system to serve me, I figure that's a lost cause. My goals are so far from theirs at this point it's not even funny.
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Post by Alethia Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:42 pm

I've reached a point where I am no longer fighting it, trying instead to find ways to make the system serve me, on my terms. I haven't fully decided where that is going to take me, yet... and it's probably a very fluid and ongoing "target."
It feels very much on topic and related Peter... Wink
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Post by Alethia Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:55 pm

As for getting the system to serve me, I figure that's a lost cause. My goals are so far from theirs at this point it's not even funny..

There is that word again....."goals".......being so "removed" I wonder what the real feeling is if its not funny?
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Post by Alethia Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:06 pm

I increasingly feel that efforts we make to "protect" our privacy is like trying to swim upstream in a swollen and growing river.

.....feels quite exhausting, tiring, unceasing,overpowering,battling, and very frightening too....I would much prefer to lie on my lilo....in a nice calm lake somewhere, looking up to the beautiful blue sky, warm sunshine tickling my toes.... Very Happy
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Post by Alethia Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:59 am

[quote="melodiccolor"]It is and we have another thread on that very article somewhere...

I like your solution and it merrits a thread of its own. How do we make that system work in our favor?[/
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It does mc I think we do need another thread for this!
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